Natalie Lund

Introduction and Guest Introduction

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Rachel: Welcome back to another episode of Menopause. I have another guest.

Rachel: I am really happy to introduce all of you two. I'm meeting her for the first time today, but I've heard a lot. Here's what I've heard. Let me tell you all before you even get a chance to hear from her directly, but. She was born in Brazil and raised across three continents, which instantly makes her way interesting to me.

Rachel: I'm like, oh gosh. So much there. But Natalie Lund is an artist turned hypnotherapist whose eclectic path from performing arts to tech, yoga instruction to film led her to rapid transformational therapy in 2021. After nine years in Berlin and recent relocation to Portugal, she now helps clients worldwide navigate trauma.

Rachel: Perimenopause, A DHD and so forth struggles through her intuitive, deeply human approach. We like human here. This is the way we roll as both a [00:01:00] certified RTT practitioner and someone who's walked through many of the same challenges that her clients face. She brings not just professional tools, but genuine empathy and lived experience to every session, and she's bringing it to this session too.

Rachel: I can already tell her philosophy is beautifully simple. She doesn't believe in fixing people. But rather in helping them remember who they were before the world told them otherwise. This is the song we are singing with this channel, and with this podcast. Natalie, I am so excited to welcome you to Menopause.

Rachel: Thanks for joining us.

Natalie: Hi, Rachel. Thank you so much for having me.

Rachel: Oh my gosh. I'm thrilled.

Natalie's Background and Journey

Rachel: I know we were just talking about, we met on Pod Match and so, as you can probably tell on anyone watching this, I'm looking for a very specific type of guest and I'm so pleased we found you and, I just compressed your lengthy experience and history and life experience and expertise into just a few sentences.

Rachel: But I wanna give you an opportunity too. Can you tell us a little bit more about yourself? You know, if you can include stuff like [00:02:00] family, job interests, obviously you've got geographic location down, but yet tell us more about yourself. we'd love to hear about you.

Natalie: Oh, okay. Family. I have none. I used to be married but divorced 12 years ago. And have been living basically with my dogs since then.

Rachel: Nice.

Natalie: Freedom. Freedom. Freedom.

Rachel: Well, do they really give you freedom? I'm sure. now, are they demanding dogs? Are they pretty chill dogs?

Rachel: They're, they're demanding.

Natalie: I have one dog, actually. I have one dog. And she is absolutely chill. She just needs her walks and affection and I love walking, especially in nature. So that's all good. And she's small enough so I can fly with her in my bag. Yeah.

Rachel: Oh, that's so cute. So she's like a little pip squeak dog. She's so cute.

Natalie: she is. She weighs six and a half kilos, so.

Natalie: Up to eight kilos, they can fly with me in the cabin. So yeah, she's absolutely chill. My dog before wasn't that chill, but also [00:03:00] small and, you know, it's easy to take them everywhere. So that's why I say freedom. I, I literally, I left Berlin going, what do I do with my life now? Because I just couldn't take it anymore.

Natalie: Couldn't take anything anymore. Couldn't take the shit of people, couldn't take jobs I couldn't take, the noise. So I just packed everything with my dog into my little vintage car and off we went and came to Portugal. So the trip here was amazing. It was beautiful through France and Spain and you know, yeah, so nice and freedom.

Natalie: I felt so free. I've never felt that free in my life. So, yeah, found a little house here in, in a tiny town with 280 people. And um,

Rachel: Oh,

Natalie: yeah,

Rachel: that sounds glorious. That sounds, I mean, seriously, we're all like listening going, that sounds really awesome.

Natalie: it is for a while. For a while it is. I needed it. I come from Sao Paulo, right? We've got over 20 million people and then lived in Hong Kong and [00:04:00] in Berlin. Always big cities, so I'm a city girl, so I was like, no, I need, change. So I came here and I'm here and it's

Rachel: Well, I'm,it sounds amazing. I

Experiences with Perimenopause

Rachel: mean, and well, I think change is gonna be like a theme of this discussion because of the topic, but let's dig into it. so I always like to ask our guests, this can be a little bit difficult maybe. It depends. I mean, it depends what everyone's experience is.

Rachel: You know, respectively, like everyone's got their own experience with menopause. But if our guests haven't guessed it, haven't guessed it from the actual sign over my head that's hanging over my head, it's very it's very pictures. It's very symbolic that it's hanging over my head. We're here to talk about menopause and we're also here to talk about all the things that you address with menopause and you know, some of the things that, the ways you've approached it.

Rachel: But first things first. What is one word that you would use to describe menopause and your experience with it so far?

Natalie: Wild.

Rachel: Oof.

Natalie: It's been wild.

Rachel: Yeah. It has, and everybody's got their [00:05:00] own, you know, what's my wild barometer? But it certainly is that. How has it been wild for you? Tell me a little bit more about that.

Natalie: So, first of all, I did not know that I was in perimenopause. I had no idea. I had not heard about it much or at all actually. But everything was weird. Like everything was hurting. My, my shoulders were hurting, and that started when I was like 38 or something. So I didn't even go that far thinking, oh, it could be something like that, you know, decreasing estrogen or anything like that.

Natalie: So I just, I was like, okay this is painful. And then I started, I've got ADHD and I had no coping mechanisms anymore. My coping mechanisms went to shit. And I was like, who the fuck am I, I am enraged. I am in pain. I don't understand what's happening. and everything was hurting. I gained weight.

Natalie: And I'm like, but I'm so young. 'cause everyone says, oh, but you're so young. And then,[00:06:00]

Rachel: that's right.

Natalie: and I'm like trying to figure out what's, what was happening to me. Obviously I was also, I studied rapid transformational therapy and started learning. So much about myself

Natalie: And about the family I come from and all the trauma and everything, and I'm like, thought that had something to do with that until I heard a podcast with Dr. Mary Claire Haver

Natalie: And she was just. Saying, oh, and you know, shoulder pain and, you know, gain weight brain fog. I'm like, what is brain fog? And I was like, oh, forgetting words. And I'm like, I forget the words in every language. I used to forget the word of the language I was speaking in, but then I blanked out every other language as well.

Natalie: And I'm like, what is happening to my brain? And then as I was listening to that, I'm like, okay, I need hormone replacement therapy.

Natalie: Because I didn't feel like myself. I was angry all the time. I, you know, was in pain and I was like, I need [00:07:00] HRT. Yeah try and get some HRT, try and get a doctor who prescribes HRT, and I was living in Berlin.

Natalie: I went to my gynecologist, said, look, I want hormones. And she's like, oh, you're too young. I don't care. I have all these symptoms.

Rachel: Yeah.

Natalie: And she's like, oh, you know what? Ah, depression. Well get an antidepressant. Go to your psychiatrist. He's like, I don't have a psychiatrist. I know this is a symptom. Oh, you gain weight.

Natalie: Oh, well eat less. So that was, that was the response I got and I was like you, no, I want hormones. She didn't give them to me.

Rachel: Oh.

Natalie: So I tried a different way. There is an app, I think you can use it in Germany and Austria, maybe Switzerland.

Rachel: Yeah,

Natalie: And I put in, I have all these symptoms. I'm in perimenopause, I think.

Natalie: I'm sure. I want to talk to somebody who actually is pro HRT,

Rachel: Yeah.

Natalie: and then this Polish doctor from [00:08:00] a tiny island in the north of Germany contacted me. I got together with him. I said, look, I have all this, I want hormone replacement therapy. And he's like, okay. Okay. Yep. Sounds like you know your shit.

Natalie: I'm like, definitely I've been studying it. I've been watching all the videos, I've been reading all the books, I've been reading everything. I'm definitely needing hormone replacement therapy. And um, yeah, so he got me the patch

Rachel: Nice.

Natalie: estrogen and the progesterone pills, and I put the patch on. Everything was gone like pain.

Natalie: Was gone, depression was gone, anxiety was gone. Brain fog got better. And then with the progesterone, I could sleep. I could sleep,

Rachel: Oh my

Natalie: which made everything better as well.

Rachel: No kidding. Oh my gosh.

Natalie: So it was wild.

Rachel: yeah, that is everyone who is going through this has gone through it and this [00:09:00] is largely for people who are maybe about to go through it is we're having so much of the same story right down to the medical professionals being like, ah. Come on now, you know, and just feeling that desperation of not being heard, not being understood not getting actual, like, hey, here's an actual solution, and for you to have to like then go look, you know?

Rachel: Okay, fine. I'll go find it myself. I'd love too, that you brought up you know, haver that I, and I'm hoping to get her on the podcast as well, because I've heard that so repeatedly. We've got these, Things. There are some resources, not enough. This channel, this podcast is meant to be that too.

Rachel: But we've got some resources that some of us are encountering and finally like, Hey, there's somebody who's telling me what is actually going on and that's exactly how I feel. And here's, you just feel heard by that, right? are you currently in perimenopause or are you in menopause or whereabout are you right now?

Natalie: perimenopause. So I still bleed regularly, more or less like between [00:10:00] 19 and 38 days.

Rachel: Yeah.

Natalie: You never know.

Rachel: I am actually, I'm gonna look this up because I always title the podcast and I'm doing this right

Natalie: the days.

Rachel: How many days since? I call it days since last incident. Since December 12th. So December 12th was the last time. So, we are 245 days. So, I'm not, I'm technically perimenopause two since the whole thing is like 12.

Rachel: It's gotta be 12 months.

Natalie: But that's, but that's, as nobody knows where that comes from.

Rachel: No, I know nobody can say. It's like, well, so like where is that from? It's just what we say and use and you're like, yeah, what's the, I don't understand. Like where's the science? Where's the pat science? And there is, there's not. There's not. It's so frustrating and wild is a great, is a great word. I know obviously you, you sought out care for yourself, but I know a lot of what you do can also help women address how they're feeling and I love the whole thing too. I mean, your whole bio talks about [00:11:00] that too. Remembering who we were before anyone told us that we, you know, or our bodies even.

Rachel: I was like, no, that's not you anymore. So I wanna get into that for sure. But I just a little bit more about yourself from your perspective and your expertise in menopause. What's at least one major aspect of it that you'd like our audience to be aware of? Especially if they're feeling the same, kinda like, ah, hopelessness about it and like it's I don't know what to do about it.

Rachel: what do you want them to be mindful of?

Natalie: that too shall pass. Ask. It passes. Okay. We know it passes. We just can't see it.

Rachel: Right?

Natalie: I think that's the biggest issue we're facing, but we know it does pass

Natalie: and we'll have changed, which is fine. Change is good.

Rachel: it can be.

Rachel: let's talk about that. Because it is a change. It's the change. You know what, I think that's what my mother and probably her mother and people called it. You're going through the change. There's [00:12:00] like a, I need to actually wanna watch, do a reaction video to watching. I dunno if you ever saw the movie fried Green Tomatoes.

Rachel: It's.

Natalie: long time ago.

Rachel: Yeah. Older movie for y'all who are out there being like, what is that? It's great movie. But Kathy Bates plays a woman in there who's, you know, she's youngish, but she starts going through the change and you know, her dealing with all that. It's very much a side part of the movie.

Rachel: as people are yourself and also other women are, experiencing this change going through whatever phase of it we are.

Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) Explained

Rachel: I wanna ask you about your approach one aspect of your approach to helping others is through your expertise in hypnotherapy and RTT.

Rachel: Can you tell us too, like, what is RTT? Can you define that for us a little bit? For anyone who's not aware?

Natalie: Yeah, RTT is rapid transformational therapy. You might have seen podcast videos of Marissa Peer who sort of started that. she was studying psychology and then her professor said, oh, you know. You'll learn about your mind when you die, basically. And she's like, hell no. It [00:13:00] has to be faster.

Natalie: So she went into hypnosis and started studying hypnosis and then sort of got different modalities together and build rapid transformational therapy. So it is hypnosis.

Natalie: Where I go back to the root cause of the issue the person is having right now. See where it comes from. And then get rid of that, and then change that belief because it's a belief that is stuck in your subconscious mind.

Natalie: It could be one tiny thing somebody said, or something you heard, or something that you even felt when you were in your mother's womb. So it, it goes far that far. And that you don't understand as a child, you don't understand stuff. You can't put things in perspective. It doesn't work. Right.

Natalie: Because like, until you're. 5, 6, 7 years old, you think the world revolves around you. So anything your parents are fighting, you think it's your fault, right? So you have this belief, [00:14:00] and that belief is stuck in your subconscious mind. And if you don't address it, it stays there. And then it, you know, drags out through your whole life.

Natalie: And what RTT does, it goes to that belief and usually it's a ah, moment.

Natalie: And then we sort of get rid of that belief. I've got different tools to do that, get rid of that belief. And then that space that's in your subconscious, we fill it with positive beliefs, with good stuff, strengthening stuff. So that's how RTT sort of works.

Natalie: Always depends. I've had wild sessions that were completely different, but yeah.

Rachel: So for a woman going, experiencing menopause and all the things it is physical, and you brought up some great examples. It's also mental you know, there's psychological stuff going on you know, the brain fog and I call it a mind fuck really, because it's just like you are, like you said.

Rachel: and we've talked [00:15:00] to guests on here before too, like the things that used to work for me to have the physique or the build that I am used to, that is the comfort zone of my body that's out the window. Suddenly, okay I haven't changed my calorie intake, I haven't changed my exercise routine, and yet I am putting on weight and I can't stop and that, messes up.

Rachel: And let's get into that too, because it's like there's all these perceptions that women deal with, you know, weight. Age or beauty or, you know, self-esteem and all these things that we're having to deal with anyway. And now we're entering this. Right? Well, everything's flipped on its head. How does your approach with RTT and hypnotherapy hypnosis, how do you approach like a woman in menopause and say, okay, we're gonna, let's tackle this sweetheart.

Rachel: Let's go, tell me about it.

Natalie: Okay, so, so basically what we think, what we see becomes reality. So whatever we think we visualize, that becomes our reality, right? That's. Basically how it works. [00:16:00] So I go, what were you told about menopause? What do you believe about menopause? What is it do you believe about aging? Right? And that can be conscious or subconscious.

Natalie: They don't always match. Most times they don't. So, or oftentimes. So I go to that root cause, first of all. And then there's a tool called cell command therapy. I love, it's my favorite tool. So basically the idea is that like your body is connected to a network of intelligence, which is connected to your mind and your mind controls that network in your body.

Natalie: And every cell has sort of, a brain, a part of a brain, and you can actually tell the cells what to do.

Rachel: Ooh.

Natalie: So you go into hypnosis, you go into this very relaxed state. It's same as meditation, same [00:17:00] as hyper focus, same as, you know, when you're driving and you're like, huh, how the hell did I get here?

Natalie: That's the same brainwave of hypnosis. So it's now not any like woo woo at all. So it's a very natural thing. So in that. In that space, you can actually basically command the cells to do what you want. So I command the cells to do what you want me to do. Right? And then so we use that for the physical stuff for, all sorts of, I don't know, weight gain controlling the hormones that they're more balanced and not like, go away like this.

Rachel: Wow.

Natalie: And then, because what you visualize tends to become become true.

Rachel: Yeah.

Natalie: I do, I have a thing called it's like an the knob of volume. I tell the person to visualize that knob and you can turn down the heat, for example.

Natalie: [00:18:00] Right? So you visualize that, the heat you're feeling in your body, you're just turning it down. I have, it's, I love it.

Cooling Techniques for Perimenopause

Natalie: It works so well.

Rachel: I'm all ears. Keep going. I love this. This is

Natalie: So I, I have different things. Also, another one that. Sort of you, you imagine like a vortex above your head, and that vortex is cooling you down. It's rearranging your stuff. It's getting everything, you know, everything that's bad. It sort of takes out like a broom, it pushes it down and everything good.

Natalie: So the brain fog, all these things I use that tool with and it's amazing. you can't change everything and you can, the best part you can fast forward. Perimenopause,

Rachel: What?

Natalie: You can make your body believe that this is going faster,

Rachel: Oh everybody wants that This is like. I mean, 'cause there's so much I wanna dig into this with too. Yeah. Being like the main thing because it's like I think we've [00:19:00] all heard that going through perimenopause, menopause, it can take 10 to 15 years

Natalie: Yeah. And if we believe that it'll take 10 to 15 years,

Rachel: exactly like, you're like, well, and it's so frustrating because.

Rachel: That every, everybody's so blase about it. Like, yeah, that's good. Good luck with that. Well just suck it up. You know, that this is what you can expect. Congrats on being a woman. You know, it's like, and I don't know if you feel this way too. I think so many of us are like, fuck that.

Rachel: You know, we're just like, no, I don't need to settle for that. You're telling me that's my only recourse is just plug ahead, plow forward and I'm just gonna deal with it and maybe I don't need to, maybe there's some other options for me. But I love that you're bringing up this too.

Rachel: 'cause I think all of us can relate. We've all been there and maybe it was way before we even hit perimenopause or menopause, that we're like, oh, I feel anxious and I'm starting to sweat. I need to calm myself down and cool myself down. Like, you're mentally trying to do that. Right. And that's exactly what you're [00:20:00] basically just putting that into like, kinda like overdrive saying let's really make that happen.

Rachel: Right.

Natalie: Yep.

Rachel: That's amazing.

Natalie: Yep.

Rachel: And for the hot flashes too. I mean, all of us are like, oh my God, can I make that stop? And you're gonna make a vortex. Like, I'm just gonna cool myself down. That's awesome.

Natalie: I do actually on my YouTube channel, I've got a video for cooling down hot flashes and one that I just took all sorts of perimenopause, menopause symptoms and rattled them down. So you can, you can download that, you can take it, you can use it for free.

Natalie: The thing is, you, your mind learns through repetition, so you need to listen to it more than once, right? Like habits change after 21 days, 28 days. So that's basically what we're doing, listening to it to 21 to 28 days,

Rachel: Wow. I

Natalie: and you can have it for free. It's there.

Rachel: Oh my gosh. Well, we're certainly absolutely gonna link to your videos and stuff in the show notes, so please, everybody go check that out because that's why I was so keen to talk to you.

Navigating Hormone Replacement Therapy

Rachel: I [00:21:00] found you really interesting too, because we are all trying to find what is our path forward and can there be a different path?

Rachel: Can it be something different than my doctor telling me, oh, well you're just depressed. Go get an antidepressant instead of. Let's do a panel on you and see what your hormones are doing. Let's go ahead and get you, let's try hormone replacement therapy. Or and just to be honest, and I, I live in the United States, so obviously medical care, health insurance, south care and all that stuff is different in a different regions.

Rachel: But I pay out of pocket. My insurance doesn't cover that for shit. I mean, it's all out of pocket for me. And that is not a reality for some people to be able to afford even hormone, hormone bone replacement.

Natalie: you, you mentioned in a video that it's quite expensive.

Rachel: I just had it done. I, I, I do pellets. I get, you know, little, little scalpel, you know, dis incision in my butt cheek muscle and yeah, it's It's weird, it's not ideal, but that way it, like over three, I think over three to four months, then it just kind of slowly, you know, [00:22:00] integrates into my system.

Rachel: But that's a it's 350 US dollars every three months that I do that. So, yeah. And that's, that's a lot, that's a lot for people. I, I feel very privileged. I can pay for that, but it's a cost. But I just, that's what I'm saying is I just, we're all trying to find. The options. What are, what can I do?

Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy Benefits

Rachel: And you're providing that through something I've always been fascinated by hypnosis and hypnotherapy. It's obviously, I think we've all heard of people where they've been, quit smoking for instance, where through that and Oh my gosh, really?

Natalie: Yeah.

Rachel: That's amazing.

Natalie: I found out why I was smoking. I was smoking to fit in because I've moved so much in my life. Right. School, I was in 10 schools in 10 years, well, in 13 years. But, you know, to fit in somewhere, we need to fit in as human beings. We need to fit in or else we don't survive. Right. And especially as teenagers and I started smoking to fit in because at least I was standing with the smokers.

Natalie: I had a group.

Natalie: And once I figured that out, [00:23:00] I quit smoking and it was easy. It was super. I didn't need anything else. I just needed to know. 'cause I wanted to quit smoking. Right. You need to want to quit smoking. And I've helped tons of people

Rachel: that's so. Oh my gosh, that sounds so amazing. Oh my gosh. so, yeah, so you're not, you're you realize the, but you knew it was possible and Yeah, like, like we said, the whole mind over matter thing is for real. That you're putting that into play by just saying, well, let's work with that mind a little bit.

Rachel: And I love the volume, that is such a great 'cause. I, can picture it almost saying, I'm gonna turn that guy down. And now I'm not gonna feel that way or have that my body do that. And

Natalie: Yep. My body will be cool and fresh and feeling good.

Rachel: Oh my gosh. We all want our bodies to feel cool and fresh and feeling good.

Natalie: There is one other thing as well. Just a, a breath thing. 'cause I do lots of breath work. If you can, not everybody can genetically, I do like a straw with your tongue. And when you [00:24:00] suck in the ear through your tongue the saliva evaporates and it cools down your body.

Rachel: What.

Natalie: That's a tiny quick fix if you're like, I'm so hot.

Rachel: I am totally, it's gonna be 99 degrees today in Denver Fahrenheit. I'm totally gonna try this because I've always just been like, Ooh, I can roll my toe. I never thought of there being a practical application to that. Oh my gosh. All right. Everyone try it and put in the comments.

Rachel: If it worked. 'cause I'm just like, I'm totally gonna try this today. And I will come back and say like, okay, I'm gonna give it a shot. I know we're running, close on time, which I could talk to you about this for hours, but I'm so glad you have a YouTube channel 'cause we're totally gonna make sure people go and check that out too.

Advice and Resources for Women

Rachel: let's imagine everyone who's watching this who's not hit, a woman who has not approached me perimenopause yet. They're feeling great. They're not there. It's not, it's on the horizon for them, but they're not there yet. What would you wanna say to them? Just whatever you want them to be aware of before they, they hit that.

Natalie: One thing careful with perimenopause and pregnancies because around me, [00:25:00] many of my friends got pregnant

Rachel: Oh, And they're like, but I was. I had my period. Yeah, but you ovulate once you have your period sometimes or right after or whatever, it's so screwed up. So be careful. Be careful. 'cause one of my friends, she had to her the fetus was sick.

Natalie: It had no chance of survival. The other one was like, this is like the worst time of my life. But she had her baby, and when she saw my video, she's like. Oh, that explains, but nobody talks about it. Another friend, she went and had it taken out. She was she was like, yeah, okay. Then I'm in perimenopause.

Natalie: Because you only notice really late as well because you're thinking, oh, okay. Yeah it's perimenopause. So make sure you know about perimenopause, that it exists, what can happen and be careful. If you are sort of approaching mid, late [00:26:00] thirties, honestly, be careful.

Rachel: Yeah. Yeah. Be smart Use protection that's there and just know that's a real, that's

Natalie: Or get your husband or partner to use protection or

Rachel: Yeah. Yeah,

Natalie: or, you know, there's other stuff men can do.

Rachel: See, I even fell into the societal, like, oh, it's up to just the woman. No. You can get your partner to take care of that as well.

Rachel: Come on. No, I appreciate you calling that out. It's, it takes two to tango, therefore both can, you know both parties

Rachel: can take care of that.

Natalie: Men can impregnate five women a day. A woman can only get pregnant once a year. So it's a man's job.

Rachel: This could be a whole nother episode we could get into with that. Girlfriend because Yeah, we'd be like, oh my gosh. It's like, it is it's great that we have the capability. It is not just up to us. Okay, thanks. Thank, exactly. Exactly. I know you brought her up already, but let's touch on her again.

Rachel: You mentioned one of the resources already, but we are all looking to lean into resources that help us get through this. What has worked for you? Who do [00:27:00] you recommend that we all look at too for additional resources around menopause?

Natalie: so Mary Claire haver on Instagram. She's phenomenal. Um, Kelly Casperson, she's a urologist and she talks a lot about testosterone because nobody talks about testosterone, and our testosterone decreases as well.

Natalie: And talks a lot about vaginal estrogen which is another thing nobody hardly ever talks about.

Natalie: You can also put it in your face, actually, it's a cream. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah.

Rachel: I am learning so much right now. I'm just like, you are blowing my mind. I'm like, oh my God. I love my own podcast.

Natalie: I got deep into that subject love it. spinning out of control there. Yeah.

Rachel: Those are some great resources.

Natalie: I don't remember who posted about A DHD and perimenopause and the struggles of having the hormones fluctuate that much. I'll try and find [00:28:00] it and I'll send it so you can maybe

Rachel: absolutely. Yeah. Let, we'll

Rachel: drop it in the

Natalie: comments.

Rachel: Absolutely. Let's do it. Oh my gosh. These are great.

Natalie: that helped me too, because I was like why am I noticing that I have a DHD Before I didn't really notice it. I was, you know, hyperactive and, you know, my brain scattered brain, whatever, but it was okay. I could cope with it, but then I couldn't, and I was noticing it and I was just. Paralyzed so many times I'm like, what is happening?

Natalie: So I'll find the video that got me like, ooh.

Rachel: see that. You're been making me do that, this whole video, so I love that. Let's bring more of that on. We're gonna dial back from menopause a little bit, but we're still, we're gonna ask some really good questions to help our audience get a chance to know you a little bit.

Rachel: Alright. If you could catapult yourself away from real life where would you picture yourself being? That's just like, oh, I'm away from everything real, and now I just can live in a fantasy for a little bit?

Natalie: A little hu on the beach.

Natalie: I stayed in a little HU in the Philippines on the [00:29:00] beach, on the sand. That was wonderful. So anywhere there

Rachel: That sounds

Natalie: where you hear the waves at night? Mm-hmm.

Rachel: Uh,

Rachel: Us. Well, let's picture if there was a bonfire out in front of that hut. What article or type of clothing have you decided we should cast into the fire of a thousand sons? Never to have to be worn again.

Natalie: High heels

Natalie: With wires.

Rachel: Girl, I have discovered wireless. Oh my gosh. Where why?

Natalie: did we ever wear that? My first, the first thing I used to do when I came home from work was open. Nope. Dec clasp in the back.

Rachel: oh my gosh.

Natalie: yeah.

Rachel: I actually have, the thing I would, I like, we'd go to bed at night and I'd, you know, take my wired bra off and I'd be like, release the Kraken, because I'm just like, oh my God. It's, they're free, but now you don't. I, yeah. So y'all they're around. Just go find the wire. It's a [00:30:00] small section for some reason.

Rachel: But it, go get yourself a wireless bra. You will never freaking go back. Not even kidding.

Natalie: no I don't have any brass anymore. I wear tops and wireless bras.

Rachel: mm-hmm. Same. There's just no. Yeah. Why there's, yeah, it's fine. Lastly, is there a charity or a for good cause or organization you'd like our audience to know about that's making a difference? and you know, sometimes we have all this rage and we wanna make some action for good. Where can we direct our energy?

Rachel: Where do you recommend.

Natalie: I like animal shelters. So helping animal shelters in your town there are eims that you can buy and send to an address that people in Gaza get

Rachel: Awesome.

Natalie: because they get their internet turned off and everything. So you can buy eims and then send it to an email address and they will give it to a person in Gaza.

Rachel: Nice.

Natalie: And anything that helps women. Women's shelters. I, when I, before I moved here, [00:31:00] I went to a women's shelter and I gave them all my clothes that I didn't wanna take with me

Rachel: Yeah.

Natalie: I also bought some diapers sanitary products, that kind of stuff.

Rachel: I love that you bring that up too. And all of those are good. We're gonna link to the some of the, do you have a specific organization we could link to for the eims for Gaza?

Rachel: is it Nomad?

Natalie: nomad. Yeah, it's nomad. Exactly.

Rachel: Nomad Eastons for Gaza. Excellent. We'll do that. But I appreciate that too. Like I mean, hey ladies, especially as we're going through menopause and our fluctuating sizes and like, you know, maybe you're like, it'd be like, yep. Maybe instead of checking that, you know, the high heels or the bras into the fire of a thousand sons, we can go donate it to a woman's shelter of someone who else could use it.

Rachel: That's certainly So you don't have to burn it. You could go give it away, but yeah, there's a, the Samaritan house is one here in Denver. Every three months will take a big bag of my clothes and just go, because those are women who are, whether they've got. Dependences are not, but they're just trying to find their life again and get back on their feet.

Rachel: And sometimes that stuff can [00:32:00] help. And thank you for bringing up the sanitary products as well, the women's hygiene. That's a

Natalie: It is so expensive. People can't afford them.

Rachel: No, No. It.

Natalie: That's it's a problem. It is a problem.

Rachel: Well, and y'all, if they're pre menopause, they're bleeding and if they're, they don't have that stuff and that's something that they need. So just remember that next time you are gonna go drop off anything, just include some of that. That's really important. But awesome. Recommendations.

Rachel: Most importantly, I know we're gonna link to your YouTube channel in the comments, but where can we find and follow you online? Because you've obviously you've given me some new ideas and resources during this podcast, so I just wanna make sure we can find you.

Rachel: Where can we find and follow you online?

Natalie: Okay, so I have a website called the Lighthouse Therapists. It had to have the s RTT with Natalia on YouTube, on TikTok, and on Instagram.

Natalie: I work online. You don't have to come to Portugal. I mean you can, but I work online.

Rachel: That is brilliant and thank you for that. [00:33:00] Telehealth is an awesome uh, who knew we could just like get healthcare over the internet. It's great. Awesome. Okay, we'll link to those in the show notes and everyone go follow Natalie, check her out and again, go try the thingy today. If you're hot and need to cool down.

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